tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post113698640449448319..comments2024-01-12T00:24:35.544+01:00Comments on St Bloggie de Riviere: English icons while stocks lastSarahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13195684182481935384noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post-1137725900432873702006-01-20T03:58:00.000+01:002006-01-20T03:58:00.000+01:001st generation migrants from conservative orthodox...1st generation migrants from conservative orthodox backgrounds tend to "breed" more...but if you see the second generation the number tapers of considerably..so stats can be confusing..here is another one..it s not just that more people are coming in..it's also that more people are large numbers are migrating overseas (some *cough cough* to Europe :p) <BR/><BR/>The reality is no welfare state can exist with low borth rates high levels of outward emigration and not have a liberal immigration policy..again on the flip side fertility is not the issue if one were to include the number of abortions that happen in England as actual births..the figures would probably even out more...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post-1137508001028417062006-01-17T15:26:00.000+01:002006-01-17T15:26:00.000+01:00What strikes me is that chain migration produces l...What strikes me is that chain migration produces larger families in the UK than in the country of origin<BR/>"The impact on society is magnified by the high birth rates of Bangladesh and Pakistan born women who, in 2001, had total fertility rates of 4.7 and 3.9 respectively, compared to the 2001 average of 1.63 for the UK as a whole. The fertility rate of India born women, at 2.3, is nearer the UK norm." (Migration Watch UK)<BR/>Is this because they can afford more children?<BR/>Lionel Shriver's article sent shivers down my spine and I must say, her last line "When Islamic fundamentalists accuse the west of being decadent, degenerate and debauched, you have to wonder if maybe they've got a point." is what I've been thinking for sometime. Europe's white population is imploding and couples are sitting back watching it happen from the comfort of their leather sofas in their tidy unencumbered homes or from the heights of some terribly interesting and self-fulfilling climb on a mountain.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195684182481935384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post-1137452089662622912006-01-16T23:54:00.000+01:002006-01-16T23:54:00.000+01:00In two partshttp://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/200...In two parts<BR/><BR/>http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2005/10/<BR/><BR/>were-not-having-kids.html<BR/><BR/>The problem with the "become wealthier and have fewer children" idea, which I understand, is that most people choose their mates from their original area of origin, mates often chosen by their family (aka 'chain migration'). So you're not really developing a 'euro' culture.<BR/><BR/>I've broken up the links again !<BR/><BR/>see http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/frameset.asp?<BR/>menu=researchpapers&page=briefingpapers/<BR/>migration_trends/<BR/>effect_of_immigration_onthe_<BR/>integration_communities_britain.aspAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post-1137403936986757792006-01-16T10:32:00.000+01:002006-01-16T10:32:00.000+01:00Thank you, laban, I managed to find the first link...Thank you, laban, I managed to find the first link, even though the link itself didn't work, but couldn't find the second. The link doesn't work and I couldn't find the blog.<BR/>I was talking to a friend who reckons that Mark Steyn was being sensationalist and that in fact, the demographic balance will even out as Muslims become wealthier and have fewer children.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195684182481935384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18862674.post-1137193178148635052006-01-13T23:59:00.000+01:002006-01-13T23:59:00.000+01:00Sarah - you are one of the few bloggers who seems ...Sarah - you are one of the few bloggers who seems to want to tke any notice of the demographic elephant in the drawing room.<BR/><BR/>You my be interested in two posts, one on the Englih demographic.<BR/><BR/>http://www.ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2004_12_19_ukcommentators_archive.html#110381556086234091<BR/><BR/>and one on the college friends of my generation who haven't had kids.<BR/><BR/>http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2005/10/were-not-having-kids.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13441809988487585009noreply@blogger.com